OS with children: What are the unstated assumptions and aims of OS?
Elena A. Marchuk
marco at mail.nsk.ru
Tue Oct 22 19:04:22 PDT 2002
Yes, Joelle,
you got, that in Russia we have no experience in project thinking and
listening for the ideas, though it was all we have and we have a lot of
ideas. the problem was always with implementation, as the usual answer was:
OK, seat down.
so people, especially young never come to the designing the project.
here, thank you Michael and Harrison, the situation is as usual not usual
Kemerovo Rotary Club is only 4 years old, it was based on 'business' club
leaded by the former deputy governor of the region - very VIP person, but
they have no much of traditions of Rotary, yes, they have sponsored the
meeting, but nobody stayed and give any ideas to children or introductions
better to say about Rotary, goals of the year... just wished the good
work... in what?
Rotary and Rotaract movement is more advanced in Far East of Russia, as much
more Rotarians are visited there from our head-quarters as it is on Alaska
and much less and less people come to the center of Russian part of our
district 5010 such as Novosibirsk and Kemerovo. Kemerovo is a sort of
isolated club, rearely taken part in our West Siberia Assemleys, though they
were on the 1st Assambley of the Russian part of the district held this year
in June in Barnaul, which was visited by the President of Rotary
International last year Richard King, in spite that it was against usual
rules - he had more invitations, that days in a year, but he did visited
Russian part as the very quick developing region, though ... lack of the
Rotary traditions.
so it happened. that District Governor Assistant and me - we were the most
experienced people on this conference in Rotary - our club of
Novosibirsk-Akademgorodok is 5 years old... and DGA did tell his nice
speach, which I really like, but ... on the evening of the second day, after
OS.
Rotaract of Kemerovo did want to make a West Siberia Assembley of Rotaract,
and their sponsors did support their idea, but not in a Rotarian way and I
think it was not good that children were left alone. On Olkhon (Baikal lake)
there were 2 american women, at least one was from the Rotaract Commettee
from Alaska, who shared her ideas about Ethics in Rotary, and opened the
assembley...
so
it the situation when I was invited to provide OS, which was not mentioned
in the agenda, ...
and the need to ask children what they want to do and what are their
concerns and also in knowing that they need some training which was supposed
to be provide by the trainer, who made the agenda...
... I still think we did a mix of 'something' which I'm trying to
investigate with the help of you, thank you,
I hope I will be more insistent next time, but the question for me, that
whether I used the OS in the proper situation?
I think yes, though participants did not came for it and did not know what
it was, but they shared their ideas and worked nicely,
in my concern, that it was mostly HOW TO questions, it is also ok, so
probably everything is OK in this situation... and whatever happens...
just sharing with you that in the case we had to share two different
approaches, and giving some space to the other trainer, which made a great
job in working on projects with participants... it was also OK.
thank you for questions
best wishes
elena
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joelle Lyons Everett" <JLEShelton at aol.com>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: OS with children: What are the unstated assumptions and aims of
OS?
> Elena--
>
> I was talking about a workshop, which is training, and you were talking
about
> Open Space, and it it good to be clear which you are leading. I find
myself
> impatient sometimes with waiting for OS participants to sort things out
for
> themselves, but to whatever degreed they are able to do that themselves,
it
> is a greater learning than anything I can tell them.
>
> I remember that when I had been teaching Creative Problem Solving for a
> number of years, I found myself frustrated because I wanted to share all I
> had learned about the process, but of course I could not do it, because
they
> had no context, in the beginning, to put all those ideas into.
>
> Last night, I co-facilitated a very short OS conference with a
professional
> organization. The outgoing president hoped that the outcome would be new
> ideas for programs and a few people volunteering to serve on the board of
> directors. The group generated lots of ideas, some of them new and
> interesting. No one offered to become a board member, but about half of t
> hose present offered to help in some concrete way. And they scheduled a
> follow-up meeting to work on the ideas, and see if they can develop a more
> manageable structure to accomplish the needed work. The talking circle at
the
> close was long and thoughtful, in spite of the fact that we went past our
> stated closing time. People were very honest, and I was moved by what
people
> said. So I think that the meeting brought some new energy and some useful
> chaos into the organization.
>
> Joelle
>
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