OST with children...

Fri Oct 4 23:16:45 PDT 2002

Hi Toni,
here some more picture which I found on the www.rotaract.irkutsk.ru - they
have a better picture then me..

best wishes

elena

----- Original Message -----
From: "Toni Petrinovich" <sacred at anacortes.net>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: OST with children...

> Elena, thank you so much for detailed response.  I AM so thankful to hear
> stories like this one when the world's children are not being listened to
> and the New Children who are making themselves known throughout the globe
> are only beginning to speak up.  The people I have cc'd here and I have
been
> working with different ideas to assist children in being able to speak and
> be heard.  Your story is so uplifting.
>
> Much love and many blessings,
> Toni Sar'h
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elena A. Marchuk" <marco at mail.nsk.ru>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: OST with children...
>
>
> > Toni,
> > if you know the content, you will love it even more, but I have it only
in
> > Russian,
> > the children made the work, which the Rotarians could be proud of and
> > envy... and all that at 10 o'clock in the evening (with 2 nights out of
> > sleep, two whole days of 'trainings' in fundrising and 'working with
> > population' which was really good but not 'garmonized' with the
> surrounding
> > nature (seating 8 hours on the windy and sunny place on the plastic
> chairs).
> > though they worked greatly, ... they love OS most of all and during 2
> hours
> > total (half and hour for opening, rules and topics, 15 minutes for group
> > organizing and watching each other... and then great work with
discussions
> > in 2 short sessions of half an hour and closing when practically ALL
have
> > some comments for... 30 seconds on average with deep thoughts... and
> wishes
> > to provide next Rotaract assambly in the way of OS, which will be held
> soon
> > for West Siberia Rotaract on the 18-21 of October in Kemerovo, as not
many
> > people could go from West Siberia to Irkutsk on Baikal lake (though
there
> > were like 40 people from 17 cities...)
> >
> > I thought that they will not come... after diner, after hard work during
2
> > days of workshop and not sleeping at nights... and you could see the
faces
> > on the opening (not very much delighted, as they were thinking of some
> more
> > trainings may be)... and the faces at the end, when even shaman has to
> wait
> > some 5-10 minutes, while the participants finished their 'closing'
> words...
> >
> > and after Future Search Conference - YOUTH FORUM (for last year students
> of
> > the high shool (it would be for you) and students from the universities
of
> > the first years) with the name"How to envolve young people in social
> > programs" with the 2 hours OS at the end... one of the boys came to me
and
> > said: it was like on the other planet. We were listened, we were heard,
we
> > worked so great!
> >
> > well, it looks like that young people also don't know how to be
meaningful
> > and find the way to do great things and rearly are given the chance to
say
> > their words and be involved.
> >
> > I'm very happy we can give it to them. and ... are going to make another
> OS
> > for free... as a Rotarian
> >
> > the young people are the 'emerging' surgace of the country, and it is
very
> > nice to be with them!
> > I even declare the special course in our Novosibirsk State University
> > "Democratic Ways of management in organizations and communities" as I
have
> a
> > lot of practice with adults... and .. we have to start with young people
> as
> > well though now sponsoring it, but it is easier to teach young people
then
> > to re-teach grown ups.
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > elena
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Toni Petrinovich" <sacred at anacortes.net>
> > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> >
> >
> > > Elena, I love this!!!!  I AM passing this along by cc to a few friends
> who
> > > work with children and have interest in OS.  Thank you so much for
> sharing
> > > these with all of us!!!!
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > > Toni Sar'h
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Elena A. Marchuk" <marco at mail.nsk.ru>
> > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > sorry for sharing ( I hope it is not very big for you ... and an
> > > > attachment... ),
> > > > as I got my collection of pictures of OS (2 hours at 8-10 o'clock in
> the
> > > > evening... so it is a little bit dark)...on Baikal Lake on the
Island
> > > > Olkhon.. with Rotaract (children from 17 cities of Siberia and Far
> East
> > > from
> > > > 16 to 25 years old I guess)
> > > >
> > > > and this picture is one of the other funny 'market places' in my
> > > collection
> > > >
> > > > on the 'house' of Buriyat people - called YURTA
> > > >
> > > > hope to post them soon on my website www.ceres.public.nsk.ru
> > > >
> > > > best wishes
> > > >
> > > > elena
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Julie Smith" <jsmith at MOSQUITONET.COM>
> > > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:44 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Winston,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure how you define "children."   I've been playing in
open
> > > > > space with middle school and high school students for almost six
> > months
> > > > > now, and having a great time.  I also have one experience with a
> group
> > > > > of 5th graders.  Here's a snippet of what I wrote shortly after
that
> > > > > experience:
> > > > >
> > > > > The third event was held at University Park Elementary School.  By
> > this
> > > > > time I was emotionally exhausted and starving..... having
neglected
> to
> > > > > eat all day.  The class is full of very assertive and vocal kids
who
> > > > > were able to stay on our abstract theme for only a short time.
The
> > > > > theme was "Thoughts and Feelings about September 11."  It was
> chaotic
> > > > > and confused.  I think a better theme would have been something
less
> > > > > abstract and more connected to their daily lives (perhaps a theme
> > around
> > > > > bullying).  The best part for me was the opportunity to connect
with
> a
> > > > > group of boys who were disconnected from the process.  We ended up
> > > > > creating a new "Z" space where the topic was Whatever You Want to
> Talk
> > > > > About.  Part of that conversation was about how much fun they were
> > > > > having doing back flips off the swings at recess.  (I told them
> about
> > a
> > > > > young man I knew who had done a back flip off a ramp on a snow
board
> > > > > without a helmet, and had ended up dying.  I told them I couldn't
> tell
> > > > > them what to do or not do, but I was concerned about their safety.
> I
> > > > > think that made a difference to at least one of the boys.)  Later,
> one
> > > > > of the boys (the one who was choosing to stand on the counter next
> to
> > > > > the sink) said he really liked Freedom.  So we talked about that
for
> > > > > awhile.  The boy lying face-down on the floor reading a book said
he
> > > > > didn't mind that people were milling about all around him, and
every
> > > > > once in awhile he popped up and said something that helped the
> > > > > conversation along.  (As you can tell, I didn't take the silent
> > > > > facilitator role in this one.  The kids seemed to really crave
> > > > > interaction, and that's what felt right to me, so whatever
> > happens.....)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Julie
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> > Chris
> > > > > Corrigan
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > > > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > > > > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Winston, et al.:
> > > > >
> > > > > I did write about how quickly my (then) three year old daughter
took
> > to
> > > > > OST in a story which you can read at
> > > > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com/openspace/story_bcaafc.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > CHRIS CORRIGAN
> > > > > Consultation - Facilitation
> > > > > Open Space Technology
> > > > >
> > > > > Bowen Island, BC, Canada
> > > > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com
> > > > > chris at chriscorrigan.com
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Winston Kinch
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:26 PM
> > > > > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > > > > Subject: OST with children...
> > > > >
> > > > > I would appreciate to be reminded (senior moments increase in
> > frequency)
> > > > > of Open Space events involving children.  I recall (I think)
Soweto,
> > and
> > > > > I am (kinda) sure Chris has mentioned one or  more....
> > > > > Winston
> > > > >
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