My Vision became Reality: OpenSpace-Online is born!

Thu May 16 11:30:45 PDT 2002

Gabriela--

Congratulations on your new online conferencing system.  I am looking forward
to learning more about it.

Thank you so much for sharing the story of your idea--it is an inspiration to
hear how you paid attention to your vision and ventured into new areas to
realize what you had envisioned.  What a gift!

Love,

Joelle

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>From  Thu May 16 23:02:56 2002
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:02:56 -0800
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From: BJ Peters <bjp1 at cox.net>
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Exquisite poem, Chris. Thank you for connecting dots. Is this perhaps a
touch like the Glass Bead Game?
BJ Peters
Chris Weaver wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi List,
I'm enjoying the thread about boundaries.  Lately I am engaged
in a community conversation in my workplace about tools for responsive
teaching...or about holding space for childrens' creativity. 
As my colleagues and I have delved deeply into the question of what creativity
is and what supports it, I have found myself thinking, without knowing
why, about the idea of spiritual obedience.  In fact I am rather
relishing the notion of obedience, and I think it has something to do with
the secret power of boundaries.  Honoring structure, holding structure,
and why, and which.
Anyhoo, I wrote a poem.
  
Talking to Noah
I found him late in life
 carving a piece of wood
 by a dry stream bed.
You know, Grandfather, I began,
 I want to be as obedient as you.
 Will you tell me about it?
He had the kind of face
 that didn1t need to smile.
 His face was a smile.
Obedience, he said, as if
 hearing the word
 for the first time.
He looked up at me.
 Yes,  he said.
 I1ll tell you about it.
When I was a boy, I was shy
 and besieged by a doubt
 that no one could understand.
For a time it was like living
 alone in an oven, looking out at people,
 them in the cool air, me burning.
Then one day, a woman looked in at me.
 She was old, and beautiful,
  a shepherdess with dusty feet.
She recognized me, and held
 out her hands.  I took them,
 and she pulled me out of there,
so smoothly, so naturally,
 that I didn1t even have time
 to be surprised.
That1s what it1s like
 when your shackles get broken.
 Sparks don1t fly.  It1s like melting
ice, like opening your eyes
 after sleep.  We sat on a rock
 and she held my hands in hers,
turning them slowly, looking at them.
 She was quiet for a long time,
 and finally she said,
You pay attention, Noah.
 You1re going to build something.
  
  
  
  
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>From  Fri May 17 12:14:33 2002
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:14:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: poem:  obedience
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Chris Weaver schrieb:

> .... about the idea of spiritual obedience. In fact I am rather
> relishing the notion of obedience, .........You pay attention, Noah.
> You1re going to build something.
>
>
> dear chris, dear all,
>
> obedience
>
> is the german "gehorsam"
> which is together with
> "gehören" and "hören"
> which are the english
> "belonging (to)" and "hearing"
> or "listening"
>
> as well obedience
> may come from
> the latin verb "audire" ?
> which is again "listening"
>
> basing on that it's serving
> to design by listening
> to manage by listening
> to decide by listening
> to facilitate by listening
> to coach by listening
> to love by listening
>
> perhaps
> the ear is the space of love
> perhaps
> obedience is the way of love
> ----------------------------------------

> ganz ohr
>
>   ich höre dir zu
> und damit gehöre ich dir
> denn wohin sonst will ich gehören
> jetzt gerade in diesem moment
> das ohr ist der ort der liebe
> das empfangende, offene ohr.
> darum vielleicht auch
> ist das schweigen so innig ergreifend
> weil es das ohr so tief berührt
> erhörung eben jetzt
> jetzt gerade
>
>
> (h)ear(t)
>
> in hearing you
> I'm belonging to you
> just now in this very moment
> the ear is the place and space of love
> the ear ever open and ever getting
> as the entrance to the heart
> the more silence is affecting so heartfelt
> cause silence goes still deeper into the ear
> touching the heart
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> love.
> florian
>
> -------------

florian fischer
begleitung im wandel
c/sta.bárbara 18
E 04115 rodalquilar / nijar
fon/fax 0034.950.389819
info at ff-wey.com

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Chris Weaver schrieb:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>.... about the idea of spiritual obedience. In
fact I am rather relishing the notion of obedience, .........You
pay attention, Noah.
 You1re going to build something.
  
dear chris, dear all,
obedience
is the german "gehorsam"
 which is together with
 "gehören" and "hören"
 which are the english
 "belonging (to)" and "hearing"
 or "listening"
as well obedience
 may come from
 the latin verb "audire" ?
 which is again "listening"
basing on that it's serving
 to design by listening
 to manage by listening
 to decide by listening
 to facilitate by listening
 to coach by listening
 to love by listening
perhaps
 the ear is the space of love
 perhaps
 obedience is the way of love
 ----------------------------------------</blockquote>

<blockquote TYPE=CITE>ganz ohr
  ich höre dir zu
 und damit gehöre ich dir
 denn wohin sonst will ich gehören
 jetzt gerade in diesem moment
 das ohr ist der ort der liebe
 das empfangende, offene ohr.
 darum vielleicht auch
 ist das schweigen so innig ergreifend
 weil es das ohr so tief berührt
 erhörung eben jetzt
 jetzt gerade
  
(h)ear(t)
in hearing you
 I'm belonging to you
 just now in this very moment
 the ear is the place and space of love
 the ear ever open and ever getting
 as the entrance to the heart
 the more silence is affecting so heartfelt
 cause silence goes still deeper into the ear
 touching the heart
-----------------------------------------
love.
 florian
-------------</blockquote>
florian fischer
 begleitung im wandel
 c/sta.bárbara 18
 E 04115 rodalquilar / nijar
 fon/fax 0034.950.389819
 info at ff-wey.com
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> 
  
  
  
  
  </blockquote>

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