givens and boundaries

[Michael M Pannwitz]

Dear Ray,
I think this is a wonderful discussion that gets me all excited
because it is about me being facilitator.
Givens to me are neither "boundaries" nor "limits".
What I care about is that the givens in an organisation/system are
stated.
To me, thats part of my job to remind the sponsor and others to be
clear on the givens. I dont care at all about how that what we call
givens is perceived: as limit, boundary, challenge, gift, obstacle,
rumor, springboard, etc.
I am not about letting people know how far they can go/cant go. My
idea is that they in turn wouldnt give a damn.
My job is to see to it that the sponsor opens the space, I provide
the technology and then do my best to "hold" time and space during
the open space.
Maybe I am missing something here but I keep getting this control
image coming up and since I am such a control freak (its turning out
to be a lifetime process to get away from it in a slight little way)
this gets me all excited.
Greetings from now late nite Berlin
michael




On Mon, 13 May 2002 09:17:11 -0400, Raymonde Lemire wrote:

>To everyone who are discussing " givens".
>
>For me these are like "boundaries" within the open space.  It's letting
>people know how far they can  / can't go within their self-organization.
>  For example, when doing an Open Space on the reorganization of a
>company - often some of the givens are you can't change the name of the
>company, fire anyone, but beyond that all ideas are accepted.  I guess
>to some extent it's letting people know what are the limits of the
>situation and that's OK.  We all have limits in our lives - I don't
>believe people take limits necessarily negatively - they are part of
>life - people then know where they stand within the current situation.
>
>
>Raymonde Lemire
>Documents Etcetera
>Ottawa Canada
>raymonde.lemire at sympatico.ca




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