A Partial Diary of the Collective Buddha

[Artur Ferreira da Silva]

Hello Toni, John and all:

At 09:11 08-05-2002 -0700, Toni Petrinovich wrote:

>And I wish to point out that it was not Jesus the Man/Christ who said that
>he was God - it was man who said that he was.  Jesus (if indeed he did say
>the words that are often quoted as his) simply said that he and the Father
>were one.  Out of this mankind (and the Catholic Church in particular) has
>extrapolated the belief system that he is the ONLY Son of God - albeit that
>you must first believe in a God to believe it can have a Son.  Yet, if you
>go beneath the words (which have been VERY poorly translated over the years)
>to what he could have meant, there lies a very great possibility that he was
>talking of himself as being part of that energy source of which we are all a
>part (including Buddhists) and not an anthropomorphic god at all.

At 20:23 08-05-2002 -0400, john engle wrote:

>for a convincing read, reinforcing your point that jesus is misrepresented
>by authors of the bible, get the book, "jesus against christianity," by jack
>nelson-pallmeyer.
>
>i attended a seminar with him this past weekend. he is a professor of
>non-violence at a catholic university and believes that jesus and god are
>pacifists and that other authors of the bible had it wrong.


Yes, I agree with both of you (and I will get the book).

The man-Jesus you described is the one I very much admire. People that
claim to be his followers (and I think that too often they ARE NOT) are the
ones that I don't admire...

Regards

Artur

PS: I am sorry if for some people this discussion seams to be off-topic.
I am more and more convinced that to Open Space (for peace, namelly,
but not only) we have to discuss something that is always undiscussed
and undiscussable - the role that religions always had, and still have today,
in promoting wars. I will, came back to that in a few days.

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