Learning: faith

[Julie Smith]

trying to absorb both florian and dan.....

perhaps faith is like light
both particle and wave
both being and becoming
both capable and incapable
of description and understanding

and unlike light
a choice

Julie

----- Original Message -----
From: Heidi and Dan Chay <chay at alaska.com>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Learning: faith


> dear dan,
> let me think about faith.
> thank you florian.
> with you I think on your thoughts,
> thinking, learning,
> in sharing, connecting,
> neither simply yours, nor mine
>
> another whole in the expanding
> universe of wholeness.
>
> faith is a noun
> faith is not a verb
> a being, yes?  not a becoming.
> "leap of faith" would be a one-to-many mapping,
> verb, becoming.
>
> faith is the now
> without past, without future
> "faith in" has both past and future
> another one-to-many mapping
> faith has siblings
> and ancestors and progeny
> that give it meaning
> what, why, where, when, how, who
>
> faith is real
> without any lingual mood
> yes, they may be "expressions of faith"
> that reveal mood*
>
>
> faith is
> faith is not to do
> yet, for many of my friends I think
> their faith is an expression of commitment
> to increasingly love, learn, and create.
>
>
> faith for a terrorist, perhaps,
> means control by sowing fear
> in a religion of death
> and destruction
>
> faith in a host universe
> of fragmentation
> rote learning,
> stove-pipe thinking,
> busy-ness,
> unquestioning obedience,
> and apathy.
>
>
> faith don´t has a direction
> neither coming from
> nor going to
> neither given from
> nor related to
> faith don´t has an intention
> yes, I think I understand,
> if we consider faith and not its siblings
> nor offspring,
> it may be so
>
> faith is vertical position
> for standing and understanding
> loyal, true, constant,
> steadfast, staunch?
>
> i am within faith
> faith is within me
> who is without what faith?
>
> perhaps
> faith is like the shore of a lake
> or the coast of an island
> or forks in paths
>
> florian
> thank you
> dan
>
> florian fischer
> begleitung im wandel
> münchener 6
> 10779 berlin
> fon 0049.30. 2116752
> fax 0049.30. 2115943
> florianfischer at ff-wey.com
>
> dan chay
> kenai alaska
> http://www.learning-communities.com
>
> *  See these interviews with bin Laden:
>
> Talks with Osama bin Laden
> by Robert Fisk
> http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=archive&s=fisk_wtc_19980921
> From the September 21, 1998 issue of The Nation.
>
> ABC Interview with Bin Laden
> 'World's Most Wanted Terrorist'
>
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/transcript_binladen1_981228.h
> tml
>
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