Thanks to All

Fri Sep 14 00:59:49 PDT 2001

As the focus of my work efforts have shifted back to working individually
with people, I have wondered when I will send in my "unsubscribe."

Now I know why I didn't.  This list has helped me wrestle with my reactions
over this last 3 days.  I initially felt quite in step with everyone else,
but as time passed this diminished rapidly.  I didn't know why until I read
my email - and there it was.  Compassion and Revenge . . .  Now What? . . .
Terror . . . Stillness . . . My friends, Harrison, Peg, Michael, and new
friends.

Thank you for all your sharings.  It has been a struggle as most of my
friends know me as a conservative and it feels strange to be at odds with
90%
of the populous according to the polls.  Odder still that my "liberal"
sister is in favor inflicting the same horror on others because we are
right.

Ho

Dave

David C. Rupley, Jr., MD(H)
dcrupley at 5pillars.com

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>From  Fri Sep 14 10:47:58 2001
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:47:58 +0200
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To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: florian fischer <florianfischer at ff-wey.com>
Subject: Re: Peace, Truth, Justice and Mercy
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but, dear agneta, your words are the best ones,
because you have written and spoken them. you gave them life.
your words will have their own rippling, encoureging others.
there is no judge, only ears and eyes, and hearts.
look, how fine are your words. isn´t it nearly a poem ?!
thank you for unlurking.
florian

Agneta Setterwall schrieb:

> I have until now been
> one of the silent readers of this list.
> It is so scary to take the risk
> and step foreward,
> to step into the ring
> and show the vulnurability.
>
> I sometimes think of it
> as a paradox that I,
> so concious of how
> dangerous groups could be,
> have chosen to work with groups
> and again and again
> taking that risks.
>
> I have to fight the "who am I to..."
> and the inner demand
> that it should be
> so very very important
> and clever and special
> and... and... So, now
>
> I take the risk to talk
> in your presence,
> which I can feel.
> I am so glad that you all exist!
> I have to send this quick
> now, before the inner judges get me.
>
> Agneta Setterwall--
>
>
>

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but, dear agneta, your words are the best ones,
 because you have written and spoken them. you gave them life.
 your words will have their own rippling, encoureging others.
 there is no judge, only ears and eyes, and hearts.
 look, how fine are your words. isn´t it nearly a poem ?!
 thank you for unlurking.
 florian
Agneta Setterwall schrieb:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have until now been
 one of the silent readers of this list.
 It is so scary to take the risk
 and step foreward,
 to step into the ring
 and show the vulnurability.
I sometimes think of it
 as a paradox that I,
 so concious of how
 dangerous groups could be,
 have chosen to work with groups
 and again and again
 taking that risks.
I have to fight the "who am I to..."
 and the inner demand
 that it should be
 so very very important
 and clever and special
 and... and... So, now
I take the risk to talk
 in your presence,
 which I can feel.
 I am so glad that you all exist!
 I have to send this quick
 now, before the inner judges get me.
Agneta Setterwall--
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>From  Fri Sep 14 10:48:57 2001
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:48:57 +0200
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From: florian fischer <florianfischer at ff-wey.com>
Subject: Re: Now What?
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kenoli Oleari schrieb:

> Here's an idea (from Tom Atlee) of a place to start:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I offer these questions -- formulated today with my daughter Jennifer -- as
> a resource for those of you wishing to organize conversations around the
> current crisis.
>

dear tom, dear jennifer,
please let me add the idea to say in every question "I" instead of "we".
because the smaller and the simplier the dones the farer and the deeper its
reaching.
and its allways clear who I am, but its still sometimes a question who is the
"we".
but, I agree, starting a "we" often is more important than to act as a "we".
because the "we" will know itself very well what and when to act.
florian

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