OS and the war in Chechnya & "+"
Elena A. Marchuk
marco at mail.nsk.ru
Sat Jul 28 16:45:15 PDT 2001
Hi dear All,
Hi dear Raffi,
I'm back from my Conference in Norilsk "Women vote for the new era in Polar
region (2-11th of July) where I work with Yellowknife (Canada) collegues as
well as with my collegues from Novosibirsk, helping facilitate the process
of marketing traditional northen crafts and arts as well as the talking
about rights of women ... with OS at the last 2 days for the half of the
participant stuff (because there were no big enough room for everybody... -
it was no a good part, I think, as some participants were interested on
other workshops as well and were going to be there and there ... but it's OK
for the principals and not OK for the better learning for them to work in
different way... but it is also OK... whatever happens....)
and from summer school for the young programmeurs (computer science) with 80
students of different age 10-20 (may be) where I volonteered to provide
"Communication skills" trainings - several days with 1,5 hour timing, though
I was supposed to have a rest - that was my husbands work, but I felt like
providing some training for this children, who prefer to "talk" to the
computers then real people...
the trainings were very popular, so my husband tried to cut them twice
"because of the great popularity" - a joke! - thinking that that was the
most convinient time for other lectures coming on weekend and so .... but
failed with the attendence... and that was not much great for the trainings,
but OK... as usual,
but all this is so small with the problem which Raffi raises....
Raffi,
I don't know if we can solve anything with OS in such a big problem, which I
know only by TV, and it is not that I'm saying we should not provide OSs, it
is good for dialogue and at least posting some thoughs on news.... yes, I
think it would be good saying something about the results of the "dialogue"
and may be some decisions, the problem I mean is the what would be next -
who will make this decisions happen - there is no "sponsor" not good and
even not a bad one to whom we could apply...
the problem is not only with us and Chechnya refugees, so I don't even know
where we could start, may be you are right - just start. But starting we
should think of the way ahead ...
sorry, this is my quick thought and I wish you good luck, and will cross my
fingers for your great ideas and activities
best wishes to you
elena
----- Original Message -----
From: "Artur F. Silva" <artsilva at mail.eunet.pt>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: OS and the war in Chechnya
> At 02:10 23-07-2001, Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
> >Dear friends,
> >As an American living in Russia doing peace work here for several years,
> >I have the fortune of going back to the USA 1-2 times a year. And it
> >never fails to strike me how what goes on in the rest of the world does
> >not even seem to enter the mental radar screen of people I know, who I
> >consider progressive, and who I would consider activists.
>
> I think one can have a "limited view" of OST as being only a
> "technology/methodology" for having fruitful meetings or one can have a
> "broader view" of OST as a tool to create Open Space Organizations,
> Open Space communities, Open Space families, Open Space schools,
> Open Space lists - in the limit, an Open Space World.
>
> As I see it, OST is a tool to open (and share) paradigms and perspectives
> about anything in the world - from Chechnya war to the question of who
> sells the weapons to all the wars in the world, from the wars to global
> weather changes or to the increase of social exclusion in the developed
> and under developed countries...
>
> And of course also and always about the way we can OPEN the limited
> mental models we and others are still using to understand the world - be
> them West centered, North centered, or any-other-particularism-centered.
>
> Nothing that relates to human beings must be out of consideration
> in the dialog among human beings or out of consideration in Open
> Space, I think.
>
> The way I see this list, is an ongoing Open Space about everything
> that can interest us as people concerned with "opening the space"
> for what has meaning to humanity -- with passion and responsibility!
>
> Every time a new thread is posted, a new break out session is convened.
> The way people sign (or not) to that session is answering (or not) to
> the post.
>
> I welcome any post like yours, Raffi, which contributes to help us see
> a part of human reality one tends to forget. Thanks.
>
> Regards from Southern Europe
>
> Artur
>
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Van: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]Namens Harrison Owen
Verzonden: 23 June 2001 14:26
Aan: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: ost in schools
At 02:00 PM 6/23/01 +1000, Andrea wrote:
Hi all, I am looking for someone who can assist me to understand and use
ost with groups of secondary students (aged 12-15) ... and older students
... and even with my teaching colleagues.
I am new to ost and have really only just started learning a bit about
it via info on the internet.
I would like to know if ost can be used with a class of 25 students in a
classroom setting (approximately 45 minute lessons).
I would especially like to hear from anyone who works in schools and
uses ost with students.
I teach English and Social Education in a rural Secondary College in
Victoria, Australia.
Welcome Andrea -- Glad you could drop by -- and I am sure some folks out
there have experience to share.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, MD 20854 USA
phone 301-469-9269
fax 301-983-9314
Summer Phone 207-763-3261
Summer Address
189 Beaucaire Ave.
Camden, ME 04843
Personal website www.mindspring.com/~owenhh
Open Space Institute website www.openspaceworld.org
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
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