Congruity (initiating thread: Part Three OST...)

Artur F. Silva artsilva at mail.eunet.pt
Mon Jan 29 17:15:46 PST 2001


Thanks Uwe and Chris:

At 14:13 29-01-2001 +0100, uwe.weissflog wrote:
>Sorry for sending this twice, the original note contained an error.
>
>Dear Arthur et al,
>
>I deeply believe what a member of an OS training in Chicago three years ago
>spontaneously said: "Oh, now I see - this is all a dance...!". If we look to
>Maturana, Wheatley, Bloch, Bohm, Krishnamurti, Senge and all the others
>who have
>deeply pondered the question of self and community, it might all come to
>an insight which I found beautifully expressed in the Tao (Mitchell's
>translation):
>
>"Therefor the Master
>acts without doing anything
>and teaches without saying anthing.
>Things arise and she lets them come;
>things disappear and she lets them go.
>She has but doesn't possess,
>acts but doesn't expect.
>When her work is done, she forgets it.
>That is why it lasts forever."

Thanks for quoting the Tao; everythig is there, in't it?; and Lao Tse
even didn't need a God to explain/reinforce anything. Everything
is clear on their own, like Harrison's books.

>  Why do I say this? I think OS is a deeply
>democratic process that builds on a way of being in the world that
>overcomes the
>separation caused by our egos. The moment we use the language of OS we
>inherently adhere to this premise. Every participant in OS, whether it is the
>one with the skill to enable the process to start (the "facilitator") or
>all the
>other participants and their special skills are allways equal - no exception.
>This is where I see the connection back to congruence. If the words are not
>matched by behavior, it will show. And the behavior of equality is
>probably not
>mainstream - neither in the US nor in Europe.

YES! YES!


>This does not mean that it can not be changed - but it is hard and requires in
>my mind three things: the will to change, rigorous selfobservation and
>practices
>that enable new forms of behavior to emerge (and to become ingrained). No easy
>task - but richly rewarding.

Agreed, with everything!

And

At 13:15 29-01-2001 +0000, Chris Weaver wrote:

>Let me share with you a description of a current project.
>
>In Asheville there is an organization called the North Carolina Center for
>Creative Retirement.  The mission is about "life-long learning," community
>involvement, etc.  The educational methodologies used have been
>traditional until the past few years, when one staff person began
>experimenting with "learning circles."

I love the idea of learning cycles. Have you any relations with the:
http://www.onelist.com/community/LearningCommunities?


>On February 15th, this Learning Circles program will hold its first OST
>meeting.  We have called it a "Transformational Learning Festival."  The
>theme is "Living on the Edge of New Growth - What Sort of Learning is
>Relevant in our Lives Right Now?"  We expect between 50 and 100 people;
>the majority will be retired, but all ages are welcome.  One of the
>"givens" of our event is that we will resist straying into opinion,
>abstraction, and debate, and will ground our discussions in the practices
>of storytelling from experience, and crafting questions that evoke more
>stories.
>
>I share this in response to Artur's posting because our "festival" is a
>very deliberate attempt to, in Artur's words, facilitate personal,
>organizational, and social metanoias.  And yes, if this event goes well,
>the Think Tank is ready to consider holding an OST meeting quarterly, with
>a multiple-group learning-circle series in homes in the community during
>each season in between.

What an Oportunity; maybe to OST, and OSO, we shall had OSC
(C from community/ies)


>I also will share a fine quotation about this type of learning.  The
>author is Chris M. Bache, Director of Transformational Learning at the
>Institute of Noetic Sciences.  I don't have a link, just these words on a
>paper (from an article called "What is Transformational Learning?")

Marbelous quotation. In exchange I give you the link:

"A Comparative View" (http://www.noetic.org/dcf/TLearning/13.html)

>So, Artur and Uwe, I too am asking:  What are the best conditions we can
>create for this to take place?  Let us tell stories about what we discover.

It is interesting you ask for us to share stories. I have participated
or aknowledge the past week end a lot Small stories of "opening spaces"
(and some of closing spaces). I will have a lot of work this week, but will try
to shall those stories during the next week end.

In the meanwhile I am waiting for others.

Thanks and Regards to both of you (and to all)

Artur.

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