Viruses & someone's Unsuscribe

Julie Hotard julie at pinefish.com
Mon Dec 10 08:27:19 PST 2001


Hi, Folks

You DO NOT need to open an attachment to
get a virus.  An e-mail can contain an executable
file that automatically opens when you open the
e-mail, or it can contain an embedded image, either
of which could give you a virus.
I will remain subscribed because I do have
excellent anit-virus software, which I am updating
every few days since I have been receiving so many
viruses from this List and elsewhere.  But if I
could not afford anti-virus software, I would be
unsubscribing, and I sure can understand anyone else
who does that.  Other lists I am on are not sending this
number of viruses.  And not everyone can spare the
time, or afford the anti-virus software, or handle the
extra stress that it adds to their days, to be able to
deal with all of this.

Julie

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This new version of the OSLIST FAQ contains information on dealing with
viruses.


Welcome to the OSLIST Frequently Asked Questions List

This FAQ has been prepared to outline some of the “givens” around the
OSLIST, the online list for Open Space Technology practitioners.  This
FAQ does not represent the official position of the OSLIST membership,
but rather, is the result of observation and participation by a few list
members who had the passion to create a FAQ.

1. What is Open Space Technology?

You'd be surprised how contentious an question that one can be.  Over
the years on OSLIST list members have gone through spells of defining
Open Space Technology both explicitly and implicitly.  In fact one of
the benefits of being subscribed to this list is that over time a
definition will emerge for each individual that makes sense.

Having said that, in 2000 a group of list members wrestled with the
challenge of crafting an Open Space Technology definition that was 25
words or less, and among the results were the following:

“Open Space is based in the belief that organizations and communities
run on passion and responsibility.  It allows groups of any size to
self-organize around what they really care about to get things done.”
-- Peg Holman

“Open Space Technology is a natural communication process that
recognizes that people take responsibility to pursue what they are
passionate about, and it ensures that what is important to each
participant will be discussed." -- developed by a small group during
Birgitt Williams' Open Space training workshop in Halifax May 15-18,
2000

That is the short answer.  How this happens is the interesting part

Open Space Technology meetings begin with all the participants sitting
in a circle, and no items on the agenda.  The meeting opens with an
agenda setting exercise following which the group self-organizes into
smaller discussion groups.  Discussion group conveners are responsible
for providing a report of the discussions, which is immediately added to
a book of proceedings.  At the conclusion of the meeting, or very
shortly thereafter, participants receive a copy of the proceedings
including all of the discussion groups’ reports and any action plans
that were developed.

Open Space Technology meetings operate on four principles and one law.
The principles are:


   * Whoever comes is the right people
   * Whatever happens is the only thing that could have happened
   * When it starts is the right time
   * When it's over it's over

And the law is known as The Law of Two Feet (sometimes referred to as
"The Law of Mobility").  It states that “If you find yourself in a
situation where you are neither learning or contributing, go somewhere
where you can.”

As a result, Open Space Technology meetings are characterized by
self-organization and high degrees of freedom for participants.

If you want to know more about Open Space Technology visit the site of
the  international Open Space Technology community at
http://www.openspaceworld.org (a companion site to this list) where you
can find an Introduction to OST in many languages and resources and
links to other materials about OST on the Web.

For the record, Open Space Technology was developed by Harrison Owen, a
Maryland USA based consultant who was searching for a way to create
better meetings after hearing that the best parts of a conference he
organized were the coffee breaks.  Open Space Technology meetings are
still known for capturing the "buzz" that permeates the gathering and
turning it towards action.  Harrison wrote "the book" on Open Space
Technology, called "Open Space Technology: A User's Guide" which serves
as an important articulation of the mechanics and meaning of the
process.

Open Space Technology meetings have been held with groups as large as
1200 and as small as 5.

2. What is OSLIST?  How do I change my list settings?

OSLIST is the international mailing list for Open Space Technology
facilitators and those interested in the process.  It is a lively forum
with 367 members (as of August 1, 2001) and generates around 10-15
messages per day, during its most active times.

To join OSLIST, or to change your settings, visit
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3. Is the list archived?

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The archives can be read and searched by visiting
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4. What is the etiquette for posting to OSLIST?

There are no hard and fast rules about what to post to OSLIST, but in
general people appreciate the following:

   * Questions about working with Open Space Technology
   * Answers to relevant questions
   * Stories about Open Space Technology meetings
   * Poems (there is a regular poetry contest that happens every six
     months or so)
   * Notices of upcoming Open Space Technology training or conferences
   * Resource material that may be of interest to Open Space Technology
     facilitators
   * Opportunities and calls for OST facilitators.
   * Introductions from new subscribers
   * Discussion about theories and ideas that can help to improve the
     understanding and practice of Open Space Technology
   * Experiences working with Open Space Organizations
   * Accounts of other ways of "opening space.".
   * Posts in languages other than English are acceptable.  OSLIST has
     readers who speak German, Swedish, Russian, Portuguese, Haitian
     Creole, Spanish and French among others and items have been posted
     in all of these languages in the past.

In general, OSLIST users seem to prefer that people avoid the following:

   * Attachments.  Please either post these to a website and provide the
     link to the list, or ask people to indicate if they wish to receive
     them off list.  Viruses are sent as attachments, and so most people
     will routinely delete them if they are not sent personally.
   * Flaming.  We are a pretty congenial group, and flaming is
     relatively unknown amongst us.  It would be nice to keep it that
     way.  If you have negative things to say about individuals it would
     be appreciated if you could keep them off list.
   * Virus warnings.  If you absolutely feel the need to post a virus
     warning to the list please ensure that the warning is not a hoax by
     first checking with the Symantec AntiVirus Centre at
     http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/

It must also be said that the jury is still out on small personal notes
of appreciation or support to individuals.  Some feel that these are a
waste of bandwidth and add to an increasingly heavy personal email
load.  Others feel that personal messages of support sent to the list
provide valuable affirmation to individuals by recognizing them within
the worldwide community of Open Space Technology practitioners.  It's
best to use your own judgment on this.  If you do post notes like this
to the list, be aware that the reception of others may be mixed.

5. Dealing with viruses

Like all email lists, the OSLIST is vulnerable to viruses being
circulated by its members.  This does happen from time to time.  While
there is no fool proof way to stop viruses being sent to the list, there
are a couple of things you can do to avoid being affected by viruses.
There is an excellent FAQ on dealing with email viruses at (
http://www.onenw.org/bin/page.cfm?pageid=14 ).  This includes
instructions for making Microsoft Outlook safe.

In addition, OSLIST users have offered the following pieces of advice:


   * Never open an attachment from an email sent to the list, even if
     they come from a source you know and trust. If you are curious
     about an attachment, ask the sender to send it to you off list.
   * Don't use Microsoft Outlook as your email reader.  Choose Eudora (
     http://www.eudora.com ) or some other free mail program instead.
   * Use Anti-virus software such as Norton Anti-virus produced by
     Symantec (
     http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content/productlink.cfm#0 ).

6. What other online discussion forums are there for Open Space
Technology practitioners?

The two most heavily visited online forums are as follows:

   * Worldwide Open Space at http://www.openspaceworld.org.
     Registration is free.
   * The Meta Network at http://www.tmn.com/new.  Follow the link to
     “make a new account” and fill out the form.  Where you are asked
     for your host or sponsor on The Meta Network enter “Openspace”

7. Where can I find out more about Open Space Technology?

The best place to start is at the Open Space World website which can be
found at: http://www.openspaceworld.org/.  Here you will find resources
for facilitators, links to websites of Open Space Technology
practitioners, stories, poetry, training opportunities, conference
information and more.

8. What is OSonOS?

OSonOS stands for “Open Space on Open Space.”  It is an annual event
that gathers together 150 or so Open Space Technology practitioners to
spend two or more days discussing issues related to the practice of Open
Space Technology.

The next OSonOS (OSinOSinOZ) will be held in Melbourne, Australia,
November 9-12, 2002.  More information about that event can be found at
http://www.openspaceworld.org/osonos.html along with links to the
proceedings of previous OSonOS events.

9. Does the OSLIST really have a Poet Laureate?

Of course!  The title of OSLIST Poet Laureate is awarded to the winner
of the Biannual OSLIST Restricted Form Poetry Contest.  Anyone may enter
this contest, and all list members have an opportunity to vote for the
winner.  The winner is responsible for organizing the next contest.  The
current OSLIST Poet Laureate is florian fischer, "open!space
facilitator".


Updated December 10, 2001
Please email any additions or changes to Chris Corrigan
corcom at interchange.ubc.ca


--
CHRIS CORRIGAN
Consultation - Facilitation
Open Space Technology

http://www.chriscorrigan.com




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<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Welcome to the OSLIST Frequently Asked
Questions List</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">This FAQ has been prepared to outline some
of the “givens” around the OSLIST, the online list for Open Space Technology
practitioners.  This FAQ does not represent the official position
of the OSLIST membership, but rather, is the result of observation and
participation by a few list members who had the passion to create a FAQ.</font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">1. What is Open Space Technology?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">You'd be surprised how contentious an question
that one can be.  Over the years on OSLIST list members have gone
through spells of defining Open Space Technology both explicitly and implicitly. 
In fact one of the benefits of being subscribed to this list is that over
time a definition will emerge for each individual that makes sense.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Having said that, in 2000 a group of list
members wrestled with the challenge of crafting an Open Space Technology
definition that was 25 words or less, and among the results were the following:</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">“Open Space is based in the belief that
organizations and communities run on passion and responsibility. 
It allows groups of any size to self-organize around what they really care
about to get things done.”  -- Peg Holman</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">“Open Space Technology is a natural communication
process that recognizes that people take responsibility to pursue what
they are passionate about, and it ensures that what is important to each
participant will be discussed." -- developed by a small group during Birgitt
Williams' Open Space training workshop in Halifax May 15-18, 2000</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">That is the short answer.  How this
happens is the interesting part</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Open Space Technology meetings begin with
all the participants sitting in a circle, and no items on the agenda. 
The meeting opens with an agenda setting exercise following which the group
self-organizes into smaller discussion groups.  Discussion group conveners
are responsible for providing a report of the discussions, which is immediately
added to a book of proceedings.  At the conclusion of the meeting,
or very shortly thereafter, participants receive a copy of the proceedings
including all of the discussion groups’ reports and any action plans that
were developed.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Open Space Technology meetings operate
on four principles and one law.  The principles are:</font>
<br> 
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Whoever comes is the right people</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Whatever happens is the only thing that could
have happened</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">When it starts is the right time</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">When it's over it's over</font></li>
</ul>

<p><br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">And the law is known as The Law of
Two Feet (sometimes referred to as "The Law of Mobility").  It states
that “If you find yourself in a situation where you are neither learning
or contributing, go somewhere where you can.”</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">As a result, Open Space Technology meetings
are characterized by self-organization and high degrees of freedom for
participants.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">If you want to know more about Open Space
Technology visit the site of the  international Open Space Technology
community at <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a>
(a companion site to this list) where you can find an Introduction to OST
in many languages and resources and links to other materials about OST
on the Web.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">For the record, Open Space Technology was
developed by Harrison Owen, a Maryland USA based consultant who was searching
for a way to create better meetings after hearing that the best parts of
a conference he organized were the coffee breaks.  Open Space Technology
meetings are still known for capturing the "buzz" that permeates the gathering
and turning it towards action.  Harrison wrote "the book" on Open
Space Technology, called "Open Space Technology: A User's Guide" which
serves as an important articulation of the mechanics and meaning of the
process.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Open Space Technology meetings have been
held with groups as large as 1200 and as small as 5.</font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">2. What is OSLIST?  How do I change
my list settings?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">OSLIST is the international mailing list
for Open Space Technology facilitators and those interested in the process. 
It is a lively forum with 367 members (as of August 1, 2001) and generates
around 10-15 messages per day, during its most active times.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">To join OSLIST, or to change your settings,
visit <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=oslist&A=1">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=oslist&A=1</a>
and fill out the form.  You may also <b>unsubscribe</b> using this
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helps out with any technical issues that need to be resolved with the list,
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<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">3. Is the list archived?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Yes, the list is archived, and all material
posted to the list is also posted to the archive.  The archive is
publicly accessible, so you may wish to keep this in mind if you choose
to post to the list.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">The archives can be read and searched by
visiting <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a></font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">4. What is the etiquette for posting
to OSLIST?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">There are no hard and fast rules about
what to post to OSLIST, but in general people appreciate the following:</font>
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Questions about working with Open Space Technology</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Answers to relevant questions</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Stories about Open Space Technology meetings</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Poems (there is a regular poetry contest that
happens every six months or so)</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Notices of upcoming Open Space Technology
training or conferences</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Resource material that may be of interest
to Open Space Technology facilitators</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Opportunities and calls for OST facilitators.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Introductions from new subscribers</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Discussion about theories and ideas that can
help to improve the understanding and practice of Open Space Technology</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Experiences working with Open Space Organizations</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Accounts of other ways of "opening space.".</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Posts in languages other than English are
acceptable.  OSLIST has readers who speak German, Swedish, Russian,
Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Spanish and French among others and items have
been posted in all of these languages in the past.</font></li>
</ul>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">In general, OSLIST users seem to prefer that
people avoid the following:</font>
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Attachments.  Please either post these
to a website and provide the link to the list, or ask people to indicate
if they wish to receive them off list.  Viruses are sent as attachments,
and so most people will routinely delete them if they are not sent personally.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Flaming.  We are a pretty congenial group,
and flaming is relatively unknown amongst us.  It would be nice to
keep it that way.  If you have negative things to say about individuals
it would be appreciated if you could keep them off list.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Virus warnings.  If you absolutely feel
the need to post a virus warning to the list please ensure that the warning
is not a hoax by first checking with the Symantec AntiVirus Centre at <a href="http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/">http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/</a></font></li>
</ul>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">It must also be said that the jury is still
out on small personal notes of appreciation or support to individuals. 
Some feel that these are a waste of bandwidth and add to an increasingly
heavy personal email load.  Others feel that personal messages of
support sent to the list provide valuable affirmation to individuals by
recognizing them within the worldwide community of Open Space Technology
practitioners.  It's best to use your own judgment on this. 
If you do post notes like this to the list, be aware that the reception
of others may be mixed.</font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">5. Dealing with viruses</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Like all email lists, the OSLIST is vulnerable
to viruses being circulated by its members.  This does happen from
time to time.  While there is no fool proof way to stop viruses being
sent to the list, there are a couple of things you can do to avoid being
affected by viruses.  There is an excellent FAQ on dealing with email
viruses at ( <A HREF="http://www.onenw.org/bin/page.cfm?pageid=14">http://www.onenw.org/bin/page.cfm?pageid=14</A> ).  This
includes instructions for making Microsoft Outlook safe.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">In addition, OSLIST users have offered
the following pieces of advice:</font>
<br> 
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Never open an attachment from an email sent
to the list, even if they come from a source you know and trust. If you
are curious about an attachment, ask the sender to send it to you off list.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Don't use Microsoft Outlook as your email
reader.  Choose Eudora ( <A HREF="http://www.eudora.com">http://www.eudora.com</A> ) or some other free
mail program instead.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Use Anti-virus software such as Norton Anti-virus
produced by Symantec ( <A HREF="http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content/productlink.cfm#0">http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content/productlink.cfm#0</A>
).</font></li>
</ul>

<p><br><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">6. What other online discussion
forums are there for Open Space Technology practitioners?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">The two most heavily visited online forums
are as follows:</font>
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">Worldwide Open Space at <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a>. 
Registration is free.</font></li>

<li>
<font face="Arial,Helvetica">The Meta Network at <a href="http://www.tmn.com/new">http://www.tmn.com/new</a>. 
Follow the link to “make a new account” and fill out the form.  Where
you are asked for your host or sponsor on The Meta Network enter “Openspace”</font></li>
</ul>
<b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">7. Where can I find out more about Open
Space Technology?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">The best place to start is at the Open
Space World website which can be found at: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/">http://www.openspaceworld.org/</a>. 
Here you will find resources for facilitators, links to websites of Open
Space Technology practitioners, stories, poetry, training opportunities,
conference information and more.</font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">8. What is OSonOS?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">OSonOS stands for “Open Space on Open Space.” 
It is an annual event that gathers together 150 or so Open Space Technology
practitioners to spend two or more days discussing issues related to the
practice of Open Space Technology.</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">The next OSonOS (OSinOSinOZ) will be held
in Melbourne, Australia, November 9-12, 2002.  More information about
that event can be found at <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/osonos.html">http://www.openspaceworld.org/osonos.html
</a>along
with links to the proceedings of previous OSonOS events.</font>
<p><b><font face="Arial,Helvetica">9. Does the OSLIST really have a Poet
Laureate?</font></b>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Of course!  The title of OSLIST Poet
Laureate is awarded to the winner of the Biannual OSLIST Restricted Form
Poetry Contest.  Anyone may enter this contest, and all list members
have an opportunity to vote for the winner.  The winner is responsible
for organizing the next contest.  The current OSLIST Poet Laureate
is florian fischer, "open!space facilitator".</font>
<br> 
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font size=-1>Updated December 10, 2001</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font size=-1>Please email any additions
or changes to Chris Corrigan corcom at interchange.ubc.ca</font></font>
<br> 
<p>--
<br>CHRIS CORRIGAN
<br>Consultation - Facilitation
<br>Open Space Technology
<p><a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a>
<br> 
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