Central Asia

[Birgitt Williams]

Wolfgang, thank you. I am still laughing!
Birgitt

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Wolfgang.Oswald
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:03 AM
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Heinz von Foerster says:
"Wahrheit ist die Erfindung eines Luegners", which means:
"Truth is the invention of a liar"

THAT is truth, isn't it?

Greetings and Kisses from Vienna,
Wolfgang

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Von: Birgitt Williams [mailto:birgitt at mindspring.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. August 2001 17:01
An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Betreff: Re: Central Asia


Kenoli,
I am wondering what your thoughts are about "truth"--> relative truth,
absolute truth, truth for the moment???? I agree it is powerful and I know
my personal experience when I hear a "truth" and yet I cannot define what
truth is.

Blessings,
Birgitt

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of kenoli
Oleari
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Central Asia


Uwe -- I think this quote from your email could be carved in stone
somewhere;

>"people can live with constraints and limitations, but not with
>deception and lies."

Truth is incredibly powerful, and the deeper the truth, the more
powerful.  We need to tell our truths about ourselves, too, and about
the costs that may come from accepting any particular set of
constraints, or the costs we may have already paid.  Telling the
truth can be used to justify not so desirable situations, also, when
we do not feel free to act.  Truth is most powerful when it is given
with authenticity and openness to honoring free choice within the
existing constraints.  Can we honor our freedom and right and
responsibility to act to determine our futures, as well as to talk
about them?  Can we take full responsibility?

Kenoli

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