Central Asia
kenoli Oleari
kenoli at igc.org
Mon Aug 27 10:13:15 PDT 2001
Eiwor and William--
Thanks -- This is my feeling, too. In fact, there is something
empowering for people to realize that they have to take full
responsibility for their futures. Sometimes becoming dependent on
NGOs can be disempowering. There is certainly clarity and
authenticity in naming things as they are. In the end,
self-empowerment is the goal.
The other issue here is the sponsors (which you address, William),
who may feel committed to inclusion and collaboration, but find it
hard to change habit patterns that continue to subvert it. These
things take time and attention, which most agencies already feel they
don't have enough of.
Kenoli
>Hallo Kenoli,
>I have not been working with such large international groupings as you do
>but there is one thing in your question that reminds me of the first steps
>in OS facilitation, to believe in the people. When you ask them to look
>around and see that all people have the competence and knowledge needed,
>why don´t do that now as well. Tell them the truth, what they can expect
>from the sponsors and ask them how they can solve the problems, how they
>think they can go on without any help from outside. I think they have the
>answers. And if they, like many people in many countries are used to being
>turned down and left after what has been a nice conference but with no
>intention from the leaders to go further with it, then they must have the
>truth so they can move on by their own power.
>If this is really important to them then nothing can stop them from going
>on with what they need to do.
>Eiwor Backelund
>
>Project Manager
>the Swedish National Federation of Study Associations
>
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>From Mon Aug 27 11:41:40 2001
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:41:40 -0700
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From: Richard Holloway <learnshops at rciti.com>
Subject: Re: (RESPONSE): Inquiry Regarding Collective Buddha "Story of
a recent 2.5 day OST"
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there are a number of recurring themes that are consistent with the thoughts
shared by both of you. Certainly the idea of Gaia consciousness, proposed
by several leading thinkers, including Gregory Bateson, is one. Another,
Meme theory (info at http://www.memes.org.uk/meme-lab/WELCOME.HTM ) offers
an explanation that some find useful and interesting. If "Open Space" (as a
practice and philosophy) can be transmitted from person to person as a virus
of the mind, replicating both practice and philosophy through the minds it
infects, then it could be considered a "meme." That would infer that you,
Harrison, may share something in common with Typhoid Mary. (-; However,
the virus you so widely spread can certainly be considered beneficial rather
than destructive.
peace be with you,
Richard C. Holloway, M.A.O.L.
P. O. Box 14
Ocean Shores, WA 98569
(360) 289-2776
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Harrison
Owen
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:55 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: (RESPONSE): Inquiry Regarding Collective Buddha "Story of a
recent 2.5 day OST"
At 07:45 PM 8/25/2001 -0700, Mark Jones wrote:
Tich Nhat Hahn is the Buddhist teacher that made the proclamation
regarding the "Collective" as the next manifestation of the Buddha.
I believe that Open Space as a life practice creates the minimal
structure
required to begin to grok "Community / Collective" -- in terms of
intention, communication, and behavior.
I believe that communities like the (Centers for) Spirited Work
that practice ongoing (3 years now) community, organization,
and business model using Open Space as the core practice -- are the
training grounds for the manifestation of the Buddha as the Collective.
I note that the active inclusion of children into the Spirited Work
community in the USA has had a positive and profound transformative
effect on the community and the practice of Open Space as a Life
Practice
(in contrast to using Open Space as just a "facilitation" tool.
Welcome Mark! - I don't know the work of Tich Nhat Hahn but he doesn't
seem to be alone in the speculations. A fellow by the name of Joel de
Rosnay, a Frenchman no less, writing in a book called "The Symbiotic Man"
seems to be saying much the same thing, although he starts from a rather
different place. The argument in brief, is that as our electronic
environment lays down the necessary neurons and synapses for a global
collective, in fact the forces of evolution are at work one more time -- but
this time leading to what comes after us -- which he calls Symbiotic Man.
Which sounds a lot like the manifestation of consciousness in (as) the
collective. And myself. I have found my thinking moving for the last 20
years in a similar direction. Those of your who have wandered through "The
Power of Spirit," (or the predecessors, Tiger or Spirit) will recognize the
argument that we are currently in what I have called the ProActive
Organizational Consciousness -- heading towards the InterActive, which is
characterized as a conscious, living, open self-organizing system. Of
course, we have always been living, open self-organizing systems -- but the
new thing is the consciousness of the fact. Or better yet, the appreciation
of this fact. Which means (amongst other things) that control as we used to
think we had it, no longer exists. It also means that the (I think)
artificial distinction between the organization and the individual is
blurred, and perhaps abolished. This does not mean (at an experiential level
that we all turn into an un-differentiated blob -- but it does mean that
the individual finds meaning largely in terms of the collective -- and
perhaps more striking, the collective is infinitely more than the sum of the
parts. In short, rampant Individualism of the sort worshipped by the likes
of Anne Rand may be on the way out (Thank God). And of course, the
experimental data upon which I have based some of these wilder notions is
our collective, global experience in Open Space. So we will see what happens
next.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, MD 20854 USA
phone 301-469-9269
fax 301-983-9314
Summer Phone 207-763-3261
Summer Address
189 Beaucaire Ave.
Camden, ME 04843
Personal website www.mindspring.com/~owenhh
Open Space Institute website www.openspaceworld.org
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
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Spirit," (or the predecessors, Tiger or Spirit) will recognize the =
argument=20
that we are currently in what I have called the ProActive =
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Consciousness -- heading towards the InterActive, which is =
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conscious, living, open self-organizing system. Of course, we have =
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living, open self-organizing systems -- but the new thing is the =
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(amongst other things) that control as we used to think we had it, no =
longer=20
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between the=20
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>From Mon Aug 27 13:23:15 2001
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:23:15 -0500
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Subject: noticing worldwide open space leadership
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hello everyone...
vancouver was the fifth osonos gathering that i've been part of as a
real or virtual participant. every one of these five events seems to
have had it's own special purpose and contribution to the growth of our
worldwide community. for me, our vancouver gathering wss about history,
supported by the longhouse location and our hosts' personal connections
to the old native ways and people of vancouver.
i had many butterfly conversations about history and leadership and
worldwide community emerging, as well as posting and capturing the
regional development issue which is posted in the proceedings at the
osw.org site and the bigmind discussions. in this message, i want to
post some of the clarity i've found about worldwide leadership here,
acknowledging some of the 'lineages' that i see emerging and inviting
you to add to and offer thanks to others who i might have missed in my
experience and/or listingmaking here.
i've come to see worldwide open space as held together by perhaps five
major bits of infrastructure, which remain organic, fresh and emergent.
here is my listing of the current incarnations of these bits (with the
core needs they've satisfied in parenthesis). for many years, harrison
did it all: gatherings, trainings, writing, metanet conversations, and
selling. over the years, others have added to and extended his work in
these areas.
i offer the following list as a framework for noticing our worldwide
(still self-organizing) infrastructure and for acknowledging and
thanking those i've noticed as leaders and spaceholders in sustaining
the practice(s) that harrison initiated and continues still. please
post a reply if you want to acknowledge anyone i've missed here...
1. OSONOS and OT conferences (face-to-face)
-harrison owen, convener of osonos events 1-4, OT1-18
-birgitt williams, larry peterson, linda stevenson, osonos 5 toronto
-peggy holman, susan claire and linda olson, osonos 6 monterey
-michael herman and sheila isakson, osonos 7 chicago
-michael pannwitz and friends, osonos 8 berlin
-chris corrigan and laurel doersam, osonos 9 vancouver
-brian bainbridge and viv mcwaters, osonosinoz melbourne
-john adams, ot-2 (i think)
-ralph copleman and friends, ot-19
2. www.openspaceworld.ORG (portal to text record)
-harrison owen, four books in print and more
-tales from open space authors
-peggy holman, change handbook
-anne stadler, learning in open space video
-birgitt williams and larry peterson, early articles
-barry owen, global osi website, articles repository
-koos de heer, introduced bulletin board software
-michael herman, barry, peggy built osw.org
-whole cast of translators of osw.org into eight languages
-harrison, michael, birgitt williams, larry peterson, chris corrigan,
michael pannwitz, personal websites with major open space resource
sections
3. www.openspaceworld.COM (training epi-center)
-harrison owen, several iterations of training courses
-larry peterson, birgitt williams, suzanne maxwell, michael pannwitz,
brian bainbridge, jeff aitken, tom thiss, linda stevenson, ralph
copleman, michael herman and others who've hosted trainings and
training-design conversations
-anne stadler and friends, spiritedwork gatherings in seattle
-birgitt williams, genuine contact program that includes OST
4. OSLIST (ongoing conversation and learning)
-frank burns, lisa kimball, douglass carmichael and friends at metanet,
forerunner to OSLIST
-listmeister, murli nagasundaram
-many leaders, who we've all noticed asking questions and offering
answers, since 1996 i think
5. OSI local/regional group leaders (local administration)
-peggy holman, anne stadler, joelle everett, birgitt williams, larry
peterson and friends who started the first two osi groups in usa and
canada
-michael pannwitz, brian bainbridge, john engle and others who've
followed in germany, australia and haiti
-birgitt and peggy and others who've made trips to do trainings and
start groups elsewhere
-peggy holman, sales of cd-rom and video resources
many many thanks to all, michael
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