Continuing OS on-line
kerry napuk
k at napuk.demon.co.uk
Thu Dec 16 07:55:53 PST 1999
Dear Peg
I did a major piece of planning work with the Scottish Arts Council in
1992/93 and with the team at Design 99 Year of Architecture and Design in
Glasgow. As the arts are so experientailly based, might you consider a
rapporteur for each travelling session, that is, bring one person from the
previous session to the new one to communicate the buzz? Perhaps this link
person also could introduce the next area session and a new one
volunteering for the next one and so on.
Just a thought.
Cheers
Kerry
>From Thu Dec 16 18:38:32 1999
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:38:32 +0100
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From: Erich Kolenaty <e.kolenaty at train.at>
Subject: AW: documentation of "short stories"
In-Reply-To: <00cd01bf47d1$5b3b1980$0300000a at Peggy>
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Peg,
the question you are bringing up is busying us at the moment. We try to do
some experimental work with "micro-spaces" at the moment, meetings were you
run one, may be two working sessions, maybe in a conitinuing process. By
doing "short stories" in my opinion it is not unsolusable to open the space
in brief, to bring up the themes and to make the people work. The main
question is who to arrange both: the connection off the people at the end
and the fusion of the outcomes.
What we tried so far:
1 Closing the meeting with a talkingstickround, no reports, no immediate
documentation. workshop-inviters use visualizations to make a report after.
The participants get the collection as soon as possible. This works, but is
not very satisfying. People don't get an instant feeling of the "whole
elephant" and after three weeks you sufffer a bad loss of energy.
2 In a break bitween workshops and closing round the invitors write
one-page-reports by hand. We copy immediately and give it out to the
participants at the end. This works, especially in not very specified
enviroments e.g. with voluntary participants, where you cannot use the
official communication base of an organization. It is not very satisfying,
because it is producing, like we say "Zettelwirtschaft" - piles of papers -
and leaves a lack of connection. Fully reports can follow if possible..
3 .We tried reports of three minutes each, which is working splendid in a
RTSC-setting, .but in an OS-seeting it is terrible boring. (ok ok, there has
not really been a need to try it by working on OS-rules). Anyway:
hypothesis: folks cannot integrate so many (even 10-20 ) different workouts
in a short time, when they are still hanging on there own. Written reports
like above. Summary: It is nice to hear, but you don't understand a lot.
4. What is working best with a limited number of people (let's say up to 10,
max. 15 working groups a round) is to generate a new social structure for
30 -45 minutes: The working groups are still sitting together in circles
like leaves of a flower and in the inner circle the facilitator is sitting
with the workshop invitors and talks about what they feel about the work in
the groups and what they think the main results have been. After this:
talking stick round or next working round. Theres is less focus on the
contents and more attention to the links bitween. For some reasons the
"inner space intervention" gathers more attention and satisfaction as any
other way handling with "micro-spaces".
I would like to share your experiences by doing short (and continuing)
meetings using OS
best wishes to you all for christmas and the Y2K
from Vienna
Erich
--------------------------------
Erich Kolenaty
TRAIN Management Trainings- und
Organisationsberatungs-GesmbH
A- 1070 Wien, Zollerg. 7/6
Tel. +43-1/526 07 408, Fax: +43-1/526 07 409
mobil: +43-1/110 75 20
e-mail: e.kolenaty at train.at, www. train.at
Also, there's a practical side to this question: what is the best way to
capture the documentation from the 3.5 hour community sessions?
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
Peg Holman
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we tried so far:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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closing round=20
the invitors write one-page-reports by hand. We copy immediately=20
and give it out to the participants at the end. This works, =
especially in=20
not very specified enviroments e.g. with voluntary participants, where =
you=20
cannot use the official communication base of an organization. It =
is not=20
very satisfying, because it is producing, like we say "Zettelwirtschaft" =
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of papers - and leaves a lack of connection. Fully reports can =
follow=20
if possible..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D785422216-16121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=3D785422216-16121999>3 .We=20
tried reports of three minutes each, which is working splendid in a=20
RTSC-setting, .but in an OS-seeting it is terrible boring. (ok ok, =
there=20
has not really been a need to try it by working on OS-rules). =
Anyway:=20
hypothesis: folks cannot integrate so many (even 10-20 ) different =
workouts in a=20
short time, when they are still hanging on there own. Written =
reports like=20
above. Summary: It is nice to hear, but you don't understand a=20
lot.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D785422216-16121999>4.=20
What is working best with a limited number of people (let's say up to =
10, max.=20
15 working groups a round) is to generate a new social structure for 30 =
-45=20
minutes: The working groups are still sitting together in circles like =
leaves of=20
a flower and in the inner circle the facilitator is sitting with the =
workshop=20
invitors and talks about what they feel about the work in the =
groups and=20
what they think the main results have been. After this: talking stick =
round or=20
next working round. Theres is less focus on the contents and more =
attention to=20
the links bitween. For some reasons the "inner space intervention" =
gathers more=20
attention and satisfaction as any other way handling with =
"micro-spaces". =20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D785422216-16121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D785422216-16121999>I=20
would like to share your experiences by doing short (and =
continuing)=20
meetings using OS</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D785422216-16121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D785422216-16121999>best=20
wishes to you all for christmas and the Y2K</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Vienna</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>--------------------------------</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Erich Kolenaty</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2>TRAIN=20
Management Trainings- und</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>Organisationsberatungs-GesmbH</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>A- 1070 Wien, Zollerg. 7/6</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Tel. +43-1/526 07 408, Fax: +43-1/526 07 =
409</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>mobil: +43-1/110 75 20</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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<DIV>Also, there's a practical side to this question: what is the best =
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capture the documentation from the 3.5 hour community sessions?</DIV>
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<DIV>Any thoughts would be appreciated!</DIV>
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